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guest: July 10th, 2002 12:20 GMT Print this post








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I was curious how the last few months went in the promotion. I wasn't living in St.L at the time. What was the last card by the St.l wrestling club? Did everyone know it was the last? What was the storyline going on at the time? Was there a Race/Blackwell feud going on? Did they just shut their doors and disappear into the night? Was there a write up in the Post Dispatch? I am intrigued as to how the final year/month/days played out. Was attendance really down?


StLouisNWAMark July 10th, 2002 15:00 GMT Print this post
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I would love to know this, too. I was in college and had not been following "our great sport" at this time. I was turned off by the WWF and the regions had folded.

I think by this time (1986?) the SLWC had lost the WATC show. That must have been a major blow. I don't know how they continued after losing the slot (1984?).

I think it became a weird amalgamation of Geigel, then Crockett, then who knows?

I remember the good days 1978 - 1983 - would like to know what the end was like 1985-1986. I know Central States was sad at the end.

Any info greatly appreciated.


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Mark, Your glory days 78-83 were mine as well. I don't remember much before or after. When I started watching WATC, the first match I saw was Terry Funk defending the NWA Title against a masked jobber named the Zebra Kid.I heard you mention you live in Florida. Whereabouts? I live in Venice in the SW Coast.


StLouisNWAMark July 11th, 2002 19:16 GMT Print this post
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No, must be a miunderstanding! I lived in STL (and went to college) - 1965-1986, then college, then the Army, ended up in Philly area in 1989. After 1984 or so lost touch with the STL wrestling scene until discovering this board! Went to CBC HS, then Wash U.  


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Mark, Did you know Mike and Mark Growe class of 83 and 84 respectively? Went to grade school with them. I graduated from Hazelwood East in 84. Went to Rosary my freshman year.


StLouisNWAMark July 13th, 2002 01:59 GMT Print this post
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Oh My Gawd! Realize this is off topic, but I absolutely knew Mike Growe, he was funnier than hell! Ask him if he knew John Edwards (me) - Did you know a guy named Bill Weber at Hazelwood East? Roomate at Wash Univ and still stay in touch with him. He was a big WATC fan too! OK, enough of the STL HS days!  


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I know Bill Weber. I used to wrestle at East and Bill was really good. I knew he was a big wrestling fan. Him and another guy used to clown around at practice and put on a "show" . Suplexes and all.Actually they were pretty good. Good guy.


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Is living in the DC area. He graduated from WU in '87 (we were roomates for 2 yrs), also went into the Army and was with the 24th ID during Desert Storm (right in the middle of things). He got out, went to work for Edward D Jones, then AT&T and ended up out east here (about 2 hrs from me). He is married to a great gal and has 2 kidddies with one more on the way! Funny, two north county rasslin fans out here now. I see him every couple of months. Besides digging WATC, he went to several SLWC Kiel shows with me 83-84. We used to wrestle intramurals at Wash Univ every year and he kicked butt. He was (is) a good amateur like Kurt Angle or Brock Lesnar. LOL  


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I just found this thread and thought I'd throw in my two cents:

After losing TV in 1984 Geigel, Gagne, O'Connor, and Race continued to promote the regular shows, albeit featuring a lot of Central States talent (as All Star Wrestling aired on TV still) with AWA and World Class guys doing a lot on the upper card.  Blackwell of course was a regular (and was indeed feuding with Race), and I believe Rick Martel even had an AWA title match with Nick Bockwinkle in 1985 in St. Louis.  Also, Sgt. Slaughter was in for a match with either Flair or Race.  

From World Class, it was mostly Iceman King Parsons (as he was from the area), Kerry Von Erich, and Chris Adams working shows.  In fact, I believe Kerry had two main events in a row, one against Adams and one against Flair in the summer of '85.  While these matches sound good, the undercard featured such stellar events as Dick the Bruiser vs. Mr. Pogo, and if you saw either of these guys in 1985-86, you know what that must have been like!

World Class pulled out of the NWA to do their own thing soon thereafter, so those guys were gone from the main events.  Also, not only had Crockett restricted Flair's dates outside his territory, but he mandated that the top part of every card featuring the World Champ feature his boys as well.  So, on Feb. 8th, 1986 the very last card of the St. Louis Wrestling Club was held (I'm almost certain this was the date).  I believe this card was held at the Arena.  The following are results from that fateful day:

1. Rocky Johnson defeated Timothy Flowers-- this was during Rocky's brief 1986 stop in Geigel territory.

2. Debbie Combs defeated Althea Montague (sp?)

3. Crusher Blackwell defeated Kareem Muhammed

4. Nick Bockwinkle defeated Larry Zbyszko on a DQ

5. Rock & Roll Express beat The Midnight Express on a DQ, so the MX kept the NWA World Tag Team Titles.

6. Tully Blanchard defeated Jimmy Valiant

7. Harley Race defeated Ric Flair in a non-title steel cage match.


After this, Race worked in Central States and the AWA briefly, and then headed to the WWF, while Geigel handed his territory over to Crockett.  Crockett ran a couple of big cards in 86-87 that featured talent from his home base, as well as the jobbers he sent into KC to do main events there (i.e. Italian Stallion, Thunderfoots, MOD Squad, Brady Boone, etc.)  After Geigel got his territory back, Crockett continued to run cards with his guys at the Kiel.  In an interesting note, Larry Matysik became the local promoter for the WWF until the mid-90s.

Doc


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From the way i remember it, Matysik split from this group and started his own outlaw promotion. There were new talent and new announcers and camera set up. I didnt know what was going on. All I knew was that this wasnt the WATC that I knew. But, I dont recall anything in the paper about it. By this point wrestling was below the radar screen.  


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The final straw was Mcmahon getting the time slot. I guess he decided St Louis was the key city to begin his expansion. Weird to say the least tuning in to WATC aand seeing the WWF.


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I think the lady wrestler listed as Althea Montague was Despina Montagues.


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Are they different people?


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bumping this thread up as Doc Burr had an interesting post about the end of The St. Louis Wrestling Club.


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Quoted from: guest, August 20th, 2002 06:09  GMT
I just found this thread and thought I'd throw in my two cents:

After losing TV in 1984 Geigel, Gagne, O'Connor, and Race continued to promote the regular shows, albeit featuring a lot of Central States talent (as All Star Wrestling aired on TV still) with AWA and World Class guys doing a lot on the upper card.  Blackwell of course was a regular (and was indeed feuding with Race), and I believe Rick Martel even had an AWA title match with Nick Bockwinkle in 1985 in St. Louis.  Also, Sgt. Slaughter was in for a match with either Flair or Race.  

From World Class, it was mostly Iceman King Parsons (as he was from the area), Kerry Von Erich, and Chris Adams working shows.  In fact, I believe Kerry had two main events in a row, one against Adams and one against Flair in the summer of '85.  While these matches sound good, the undercard featured such stellar events as Dick the Bruiser vs. Mr. Pogo, and if you saw either of these guys in 1985-86, you know what that must have been like!

World Class pulled out of the NWA to do their own thing soon thereafter, so those guys were gone from the main events.  Also, not only had Crockett restricted Flair's dates outside his territory, but he mandated that the top part of every card featuring the World Champ feature his boys as well.  So, on Feb. 8th, 1986 the very last card of the St. Louis Wrestling Club was held (I'm almost certain this was the date).  I believe this card was held at the Arena.  The following are results from that fateful day:

1. Rocky Johnson defeated Timothy Flowers-- this was during Rocky's brief 1986 stop in Geigel territory.

2. Debbie Combs defeated Althea Montague (sp?)

3. Crusher Blackwell defeated Kareem Muhammed

4. Nick Bockwinkle defeated Larry Zbyszko on a DQ

5. Rock & Roll Express beat The Midnight Express on a DQ, so the MX kept the NWA World Tag Team Titles.

6. Tully Blanchard defeated Jimmy Valiant

7. Harley Race defeated Ric Flair in a non-title steel cage match.


After this, Race worked in Central States and the AWA briefly, and then headed to the WWF, while Geigel handed his territory over to Crockett.  Crockett ran a couple of big cards in 86-87 that featured talent from his home base, as well as the jobbers he sent into KC to do main events there (i.e. Italian Stallion, Thunderfoots, MOD Squad, Brady Boone, etc.)  After Geigel got his territory back, Crockett continued to run cards with his guys at the Kiel.  In an interesting note, Larry Matysik became the local promoter for the WWF until the mid-90s.

Doc



I'm still striggling with this scenario but I am certain the 2/8/86 card was a Crockett bill, not SLWC.  Far as I can tell, SLWC last show under its own banner was the previous September.  Any takers on that one?
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