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Widow Maker July 28th, 2012 01:25 GMT Print this post
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I do wish Demolition had at lasted at the top at least 2 or 3 more years than they did. I felt Earthquake was a great monster heel and wish he had continued as such into the mid 90s. i was hoping for a lot more than we got from the Warrior title run than we did.

Hogan? Not so much. i was getting bored by 1990
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Don Muraco: I think he still had some left in the tank, and was having, I thought, good matches in late '88. He could have helped put over new workers.

Terry Taylor: But not as F'd up Rooster. He had good ring skills, I thought, and could have been a good competitor against Perfect for IC belt.

Billy Jack Haynes: I wonder what might have been.

Rick Martel: He could have been pushed greater in the early 90's and I always wondered why he wasn't. Politics I think.

Bad News Brown: What if Butch Reed had stayed around and they formed a tag team? What about the title Vince promised?

Powers of Pain: Never understood why they were broken up.




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Muraco and Brown were older by that point, so I can see why they were not pushed as much

Taylor, I agree.  Problem is though after seeing him as the Red Rooster most WWF fans could never take him seriously

Haynes just didn't click in the WWF

POP I was surprised when they were split up also.  But they were very limited especially the Warlord

Martel I absolutely agree with you
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Quoted from: Widow Maker, July 28th, 2012 01:25  GMT
I do wish Demolition had at lasted at the top at least 2 or 3 more years than they did. I felt Earthquake was a great monster heel and wish he had continued as such into the mid 90s. i was hoping for a lot more than we got from the Warrior title run than we did.

Hogan? Not so much. i was getting bored by 1990


Wasn't Ax's health bad at this point, which is why they brought in Crush?  Smash and Crush were not nearly as good a team as Ax and Smash

Agree on Earthquake and Hogan
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Quoted from: ringannouncer, July 28th, 2012 02:31  GMT
Don Muraco: I think he still had some left in the tank, and was having, I thought, good matches in late '88. He could have helped put over new workers.

Terry Taylor: But not as F'd up Rooster. He had good ring skills, I thought, and could have been a good competitor against Perfect for IC belt.

Billy Jack Haynes: I wonder what might have been.

Rick Martel: He could have been pushed greater in the early 90's and I always wondered why he wasn't. Politics I think.

Bad News Brown: What if Butch Reed had stayed around and they formed a tag team? What about the title Vince promised?

Powers of Pain: Never understood why they were broken up.





Definitely Billy Jack. He could have been a strong IC contender against Honky. Loved Martel but in reality he was there on and off until 94. He really did all he could do bar a face turn which they teased so many times (Summerslam 92 with Michaels, Adam Bomb in late 93). Always felt that Bad News had done everything he could by the time he left as well. Never liked the PoP. Not a fan of them individually either but I found them more tolerable that way.

A few that haven't been mentioned:
- Would like to have seen Orndorff return in the early 90s. He was a bit played out by the time he left but he could have worked well against Bret in 91 (as discussed in another thread here not too long ago).
- Bob Orton. Similarly, he would have been good as a lower-mid card guy in the early 90s. IIRC, he was due to return in Jan 90 at an MSG show against Bret but it never happened for whatever reason. I think he was replaced by Akeem. Speaking of...
- Akeem. As ridiculous as it may have been, I would have liked to have seen a face turn from him in the Akeem gimmick. I think it could have worked with the colourful attires, the dancing and he was always smiling and laughing anyway as a heel. Just have him dump Slick and you've got it. I guess Bossman turning face earlier in 90 probably put an end to any such plans.
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Tito....should have had a shot at the IC belt at least once a year.
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Quoted from: paperback hero, July 28th, 2012 19:55  GMT
Tito....should have had a shot at the IC belt at least once a year.


Well, he did get a shot against Perfect on a SNME. Plus, he was in the tournament finals with him a few months prior. After that, he didn't get many (or perhaps any at all) but that was mainly due to the fact that there wasn't another heel IC champ until Michaels in late 92. By then, as El Matador, he was floundering.
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- Akeem. As ridiculous as it may have been, I would have liked to have seen a face turn from him in the Akeem gimmick. I think it could have worked with the colourful attires, the dancing and he was always smiling and laughing anyway as a heel. Just have him dump Slick and you've got it. I guess Bossman turning face earlier in 90 probably put an end to any such plans.


I've always wondered what more could have been done with Akeem. But to keep the Akeem gimmick/music he would have to have dumped Slick and that would have been the end of that. Maybe you have him run in and save Andre when he gets knocked down by Earthquake and have a Quake-Gang (or whoever he'd be) feud.
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Quoted from: ringannouncer, July 28th, 2012 23:58  GMT

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- Akeem. As ridiculous as it may have been, I would have liked to have seen a face turn from him in the Akeem gimmick. I think it could have worked with the colourful attires, the dancing and he was always smiling and laughing anyway as a heel. Just have him dump Slick and you've got it. I guess Bossman turning face earlier in 90 probably put an end to any such plans.


I've always wondered what more could have been done with Akeem. But to keep the Akeem gimmick/music he would have to have dumped Slick and that would have been the end of that. Maybe you have him run in and save Andre when he gets knocked down by Earthquake and have a Quake-Gang (or whoever he'd be) feud.


So many posssiblities I think....

Slick teaming Akeem with Kamala would have had all kinds of comedy on it.

One Man Gang saving Andre and going up against Earthquake would have been a spetacle.  

OMG recuing Big Boss Man from and attack by The Natural Disasters. Then we could have seen the Twin Towers vs ND.

Somehow though I think the real potential of 1990s WWF run for OMG in WWF would have involved Bam Bam Bigelow and evenutally the Undertaker.

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Quoted from: torturedsoulv1, July 28th, 2012 06:40  GMT

Quoted from: Widow Maker, July 28th, 2012 01:25  GMT
I do wish Demolition had at lasted at the top at least 2 or 3 more years than they did. I felt Earthquake was a great monster heel and wish he had continued as such into the mid 90s. i was hoping for a lot more than we got from the Warrior title run than we did.

Hogan? Not so much. i was getting bored by 1990


Wasn't Ax's health bad at this point, which is why they brought in Crush?  Smash and Crush were not nearly as good a team as Ax and Smash

Agree on Earthquake and Hogan


really just wishful thinking on my part that Ax did not get ill at all. Although I'm sure i heard that he recovered a lot sooner than anyone predicted.
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I agree with Akeem/OMG & Martel, and would have loved to see them do more with Bad News Brown.  I was also a Hercules fan and liked him as the longer-haired original heel Hernandez version.




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It's true Orndorff shrunk after his injury and he was never the same in the early 1990s but he was still a good hand, and it would have been cool if he had a push in the WWF after he healed up.  

WWF's tag team division in general took a hit, and I wish that stayed strong. I know some people from WrestlingClassics like to spam the world saying the WWF had the worst tag team action in the world in the 1980s compared to other regions, but it was hot.

Random year fast forward; 1988 (Rockers, PoP, Demolition, Hart Foundation, Brain Busters, Rougeaus, Bulldogs to 1995 (Headshrinkers, Smoking Gunns, Body Donnas, MOM, Headshrinkers, Holly/Kidd, Owen+Yoko)
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Quoted from: DailySkew, July 31st, 2012 13:22  GMT
It's true Orndorff shrunk after his injury and he was never the same in the early 1990s but he was still a good hand, and it would have been cool if he had a push in the WWF after he healed up.  

WWF's tag team division in general took a hit, and I wish that stayed strong. I know some people from WrestlingClassics like to spam the world saying the WWF had the worst tag team action in the world in the 1980s compared to other regions, but it was hot.

Random year fast forward; 1988 (Rockers, PoP, Demolition, Hart Foundation, Brain Busters, Rougeaus, Bulldogs to 1995 (Headshrinkers, Smoking Gunns, Body Donnas, MOM, Headshrinkers, Holly/Kidd, Owen+Yoko)


91 is when their tag division really went downhill. They lost the Hart Foundation, Power and Glory, Demolition and you could also count the Rockers (late 91/early 92) and even Rhythm & Blues (late 90/early 91). Sadly, the replacements just weren't up to much - Beverlys went nowhere, Natural Disasters were passable as heels but just didn't work as faces IMO, Duggan and Slaughter were thrown together to keep them occupied, the New Foundation could have worked but Neidhart ended up fired and after that High Energy just never took off. And was it just me but did anyone find Money Inc incredibly boring? I mean I like both DiBiase and Rotunda as singles but together they just lost all charisma. The storyline with the other teams turning on Jimmy Hart and him eventually turning face on them was the pits. Worst of all, they ended up basically carrying the division for about 18 months. Things could have picked up by 93 with the Steiners, Heavenly Bodies, Headshrinkers and Quebecers but that was all gone by mid 94.
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Quoted from: Steinerline, July 31st, 2012 20:44  GMT

Quoted from: DailySkew, July 31st, 2012 13:22  GMT
It's true Orndorff shrunk after his injury and he was never the same in the early 1990s but he was still a good hand, and it would have been cool if he had a push in the WWF after he healed up.  

WWF's tag team division in general took a hit, and I wish that stayed strong. I know some people from WrestlingClassics like to spam the world saying the WWF had the worst tag team action in the world in the 1980s compared to other regions, but it was hot.

Random year fast forward; 1988 (Rockers, PoP, Demolition, Hart Foundation, Brain Busters, Rougeaus, Bulldogs to 1995 (Headshrinkers, Smoking Gunns, Body Donnas, MOM, Headshrinkers, Holly/Kidd, Owen+Yoko)


91 is when their tag division really went downhill. They lost the Hart Foundation, Power and Glory, Demolition and you could also count the Rockers (late 91/early 92) and even Rhythm & Blues (late 90/early 91). Sadly, the replacements just weren't up to much - Beverlys went nowhere, Natural Disasters were passable as heels but just didn't work as faces IMO, Duggan and Slaughter were thrown together to keep them occupied, the New Foundation could have worked but Neidhart ended up fired and after that High Energy just never took off. And was it just me but did anyone find Money Inc incredibly boring? I mean I like both DiBiase and Rotunda as singles but together they just lost all charisma. The storyline with the other teams turning on Jimmy Hart and him eventually turning face on them was the pits. Worst of all, they ended up basically carrying the division for about 18 months. Things could have picked up by 93 with the Steiners, Heavenly Bodies, Headshrinkers and Quebecers but that was all gone by mid 94.



I agree with everything you say here:

Natural Disasters  were just a very bad team to have as faces. Same with the Nasty Boys. Dibiase and IRS were a very boring team and much worse off than wehn they were singles.  I wish the New Foundation had lasted with Neidhart and Owen sticking with the traditional Hart Foundation pink and black. Failing that, I would have prefered an early version of the Owen/Davey Boy Team.  I wish the Beverly Brothers had just stayed as the Destruction Crew or had them brought in as Dibiase's Million Dollar Tag team. This way they could have still done the rich kid gimmick, but with Dibiase making it more relevant. The LOD, Steiners and Headshrinkers were just much watered down versions of what they were in WCW.
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I actually liked Money Inc,but I think I would have dug them a little more had Rotundo not been saddled with the IRS gimmick. Not sure what kind of gimmick change you use to shine him up a bit,but I thought it took a little something away from what was otherwise,IMO,a good team.

It's always struck me as a little odd that Rotundo went from Michael Wallstreet (the concept of which I liked) to IRS and then to VK Wallstreet,where his gimmick had some sort of connection to the financial world. He pretty much worked the same or similar gimmick for nearly a decade. I guess it woud be one thing to do that if Rotundo had some sort of background there,but to my knowledge,he did not. Weird.


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