Hi all, I would like some suggestions/advice on trying to separate the following wrestlers between central states and st louis wrestling club. From what I have read the two seemed to have the same wrestlers but were used differently. Basically I can't 'share' wrestlers so from the ones listed below which should go to st louis? central states? Thanks in advance.
666 (jim starr) bart batten bob sweetan brad batten bulldog bob brown buzz tyler col. Buck robley crazy luke graham sr don tally dusty wolfe esquire gary royal grappler #1-2 (len denton) grappler #2-2 (tony anthony) grizzly evans harley race honey jerry brown jerry oates-6 killer karl kox-7 M.E.B - mike george mike pagal mike stone mr. Russell sapp rick patterson roger kirby ron starr rufus r. jones shiek abdullah the great-1 takachiho ted oates tg stone the mongol thunderfoot #1-4 (joel deaton) thunderfoot #2-4(dave deaton) tom ivy tom shaft tommy sharpe art crews dick murdoch dick slater dick the brusier george wells jack brisco ox baker spike huber the superfly (ran candy) wilburn snyder
And please include any big superstars I missed. Thanks again!
Thanks, Well I'm trying to come up with good, solid, and accurate rosters for both Central States and St. Louis (without sharing or duplicating any wrestlers). Anyone able to assist? Need wrestlers of all positions (jobber/opener to main eventers, managers welcomed too). Thanks! -Belial.
how about my uncle, BARON VON HEISINGER he wrestled for the central states but also in st.louis and was allowed by mr. muchnick to use the "baron" while "raschke was not!!!!!
Dick the Bruiser was St. Louis, he never worked in Central States. Other big St. Louis names would be
Spike Huber (Bruiser's son-in-law) Gene Kiniski Dick Murdoch Ted DiBiase
A lot of the big Central States names did brief runs in St. Louis, like Bulldog Bob Brown. Most of the guys on the original list were strictly Central States talent.
Dick the Bruiser definitely worked the Central States area. I saw him wrestle in Kansas City many times against Harley Race, Bruiser Bob Sweetan, Giant Baba, etc...
Wow, I dont ever remember seeing Dick the Bruiser in CS, was he on tv or was it house shows?
Ted DiBiase wrestled in CS early in his career, maybe around 78 or so, I seen Ted wrestle Bruiser Brody which is where my admiration and fandom With DiBiase began. MFD
I think the Bruiser mostly wrestled in KC during the 50s and 60s. I know Geigel & Bob Brown wrestled Bruiser and Crusher during that time period.
Harley Race once told me that Bruiser and Geigel did not get along well, so maybe that explains why he wasn't in KC that much (if at all) after Geigel took over. Edited by: MU Chris at: 5/3/03 8:54:15 am
I saw them live at Memorial Hall in Kansas City, Ks. That is where just about all of the wrestling matches took place in K.C. Geigel sometimes would put on matches at Kemper Arena or at Municipal Auditorium on the Mo. side, but most took place at Memorial Hall.
To the best of my knowledge, the following never worked Kiel or Arena shows in St. Louis (TV is harder tyo be sure of):
666 (jim starr) bart batten brad batten don tally esquire gary royal grappler #1-2 (len denton) grappler #2-2 (tony anthony) grizzly evans honey M.E.B - mike pagal mike stone mr. Russell sapp rick patterson shiek abdullah the great-1 tg stone the mongol thunderfoot #1-4 (joel deaton) thunderfoot #2-4(dave deaton) tom ivy tom shaft
Over on the St Louis board, there's a thread with all the St Louis house show cards from 1978-1985. You can check there to see which wrestlers appeared in St Louis and which wrestlers did not by clicking the following link.
The only ones on that list that worked STL regular during the STLWC days:
Bulldog Bob Brown (was mid-card filler)
Art Crews
Dick Murdoch
Dick the Bruiser
Jack Brisco
Spike Huber
Rufus R. Jones
Roger Kirby
The remainder of them might have appeared on arena cards after Geigel, Race, and O'Connor took over St. Louis, but they would have been considered Central States rather than STLWC.