Welcome guest Login : Register : Latest posts : Help » Discussion Forums » Reading Topic » Midwest Territories » Central States » central states vs st louis Only one page to show. guest: August 29th, 2002 05:31 GMT Post: #23066 PT: #1/15 Hi all, I would like some suggestions/advice on trying to separate the following wrestlers between central states and st louis wrestling club.  From what I have read the two seemed to have the same wrestlers but were used differently.  Basically I can't 'share' wrestlers so from the ones listed below which should go to st louis? central states?  Thanks in advance. 666 (jim starr) bart batten bob sweetan brad batten bulldog bob brown buzz tyler col. Buck robley crazy luke graham sr don tally dusty wolfe esquire gary royal grappler #1-2 (len denton) grappler #2-2 (tony anthony) grizzly evans harley race honey jerry brown jerry oates-6 killer karl kox-7 M.E.B - mike george mike pagal mike stone mr. Russell sapp rick patterson roger kirby ron starr rufus r. jones shiek abdullah the great-1 takachiho ted oates tg stone the mongol thunderfoot #1-4 (joel deaton) thunderfoot #2-4(dave deaton) tom ivy tom shaft tommy sharpe art crews dick murdoch dick slater dick the brusier george wells jack brisco ox baker spike huber the superfly (ran candy) wilburn snyder And please include any big superstars I missed. Thanks again! guest: September 08th, 2002 16:54 GMT Post: #23067 PT: #2/15 Most of the upper part of your list I do not remember them wrestling in St Louis. At least not on Wrestling at the Chase.   guest: September 10th, 2002 18:27 GMT Post: #23068 PT: #3/15 Thanks, Well I'm trying to come up with good, solid, and accurate rosters for both Central States and St. Louis (without sharing or duplicating any wrestlers).  Anyone able to assist? Need wrestlers of all positions (jobber/opener to main eventers, managers welcomed too). Thanks! -Belial. guest: September 12th, 2002 00:28 GMT Post: #23069 PT: #4/15 how about my uncle, BARON VON HEISINGER he wrestled for the central states but also in st.louis and was allowed by mr. muchnick to use the "baron" while "raschke was not!!!!! guest: April 27th, 2003 05:07 GMT Post: #23070 PT: #5/15 Dick the Bruiser was St. Louis, he never worked in Central States. Other big St. Louis names would be Spike Huber (Bruiser's son-in-law) Gene Kiniski Dick Murdoch Ted DiBiase A lot of the big Central States names did brief runs in St. Louis, like Bulldog Bob Brown.  Most of the guys on the original list were strictly Central States talent. guest: April 28th, 2003 03:08 GMT Post: #23071 PT: #6/15 Dick the Bruiser definitely worked the Central States area. I saw him wrestle in Kansas City many times against Harley Race, Bruiser Bob Sweetan, Giant Baba, etc... guest: May 03rd, 2003 02:26 GMT Post: #23072 PT: #7/15 Wow, I dont ever remember seeing Dick the Bruiser in CS, was he on tv or was it  house shows? Ted DiBiase wrestled in CS early in his career, maybe around 78 or so, I seen Ted wrestle Bruiser Brody which is where my admiration and fandom With DiBiase began. MFD guest: May 03rd, 2003 04:21 GMT Post: #23073 PT: #8/15 I think the Bruiser mostly wrestled in KC during the 50s and 60s.  I know Geigel & Bob Brown wrestled Bruiser and Crusher during that time period. Harley Race once told me that Bruiser and Geigel did not get along well, so maybe that explains why he wasn't in KC that much (if at all) after Geigel took over. Edited by: MU Chris at: 5/3/03 8:54:15 am guest: May 03rd, 2003 13:24 GMT Post: #23074 PT: #9/15 Dick the Bruiser definitely wrestled in K.C. during the 1980's. I saw him wrestle Ray Candy, Bruiser Bob Sweetan, Buzz Tyler & Harley Race, etc. guest: May 03rd, 2003 20:20 GMT Post: #23075 PT: #10/15 Sheikfan did you see these DTB matches live or did you see these on Giegels All-Star Wrestling show? MFD guest: May 08th, 2003 12:40 GMT Post: #23076 PT: #11/15 I saw them live at Memorial Hall in Kansas City, Ks. That is where just about all of the wrestling matches took place in K.C. Geigel sometimes would put on matches at Kemper Arena or at Municipal Auditorium on the Mo. side, but most took place at Memorial Hall.   guest: July 08th, 2003 01:18 GMT Post: #23077 PT: #12/15 To the best of my knowledge, the following never worked Kiel or Arena shows in St. Louis (TV is harder tyo be sure of): 666 (jim starr) bart batten brad batten don tally esquire gary royal grappler #1-2 (len denton) grappler #2-2 (tony anthony) grizzly evans honey M.E.B - mike pagal mike stone mr. Russell sapp rick patterson shiek abdullah the great-1 tg stone the mongol thunderfoot #1-4 (joel deaton) thunderfoot #2-4(dave deaton) tom ivy tom shaft guest: clawmaster July 12th, 2003 18:43 GMT Post: #23078 PT: #13/15 Over on the St Louis board, there's a thread with all the St Louis house show cards from 1978-1985. You can check there to see which wrestlers appeared in St Louis and which wrestlers did not by clicking the following link. St Louis Results chrisstlouis March 17th, 2011 21:37 GMT Topics: 195 Replies: 13997 Member Post: #660593 PT: #14/15 Some of those guys did during the Crockett era. Mike S February 27th, 2024 18:16 GMT Topics: 0 Replies: 24 Member Post: #1073685 PT: #15/15 The only ones on that list that worked STL regular during the STLWC days: Bulldog Bob Brown (was mid-card filler) Art Crews Dick Murdoch Dick the Bruiser Jack Brisco Spike Huber Rufus R. Jones Roger Kirby The remainder of them might have appeared on arena cards after Geigel, Race, and O'Connor took over St. Louis, but they would have been considered Central States rather than STLWC. Only one page to show. Posts in this thread ( 15 ) [ Subscriptions disabled ] [ Print Topic :: Print page] » Discussion Forums » Reading Topic © ICT - Infinite Core Technologies 2002-2006 All Rights Reserved Driven by ICT - Infinite Core Technologies