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ultimate stinger March 31st, 2024 17:42 GMT Print this post
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In your opinion, who was the 3rd best champion after Gagne and Bockwinkel?
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The Masked Professor March 31st, 2024 23:28 GMT Print this post
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Mad Dog.


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chitown rich April 01st, 2024 00:24 GMT Print this post
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I say Mad Dog also.
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rhodesfan April 01st, 2024 00:30 GMT Print this post
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I can tell you every NWA champ 50's -early 90's',every WWWF champ thru 83 but forget who all held belt pre 1970 AWA. The champs and title matches pre 1970 AWA never get talked about in podcast or anywhere for the most part.
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Butcher Boy April 01st, 2024 21:34 GMT Print this post
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Kiniski
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Dan Shocket's Ghost April 02nd, 2024 01:59 GMT Print this post
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I thought Rick Martel made a great AWA champion.


Also although Larry Z was at the sad tail end of the AWA his run as champion was very entertaining.
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Quoted from: Dan Shocket's Ghost, April 02nd, 2024 01:59  GMT

I thought Rick Martel made a great AWA champion.


Also although Larry Z was at the sad tail end of the AWA his run as champion was very entertaining.


Basically, add Hennig and this is my quandary: trying to pick between these choices. Martel maybe gets the edge for me as he was on top when AWA was doing well. Plus he was fantastic in ring. Had heated battles with Garvin, Hansen, Gordy and Hayes. Also did great with variety of opponents around the world as champ: Jumbo, Burke, Backlund, Larry and of course former champ Bock.  


Underrated as I feel he gets less credit than deserved. Even his run as Model was good. That battle royal for the IC title with Razor and his long Rumble outing spring to mind. Believe it or not, even the Blindfold Match with Jake at WM7 was the only match of that type that even somewhat entertained.


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BattleRoyal April 02nd, 2024 13:36 GMT Print this post
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Fritz Von Erich
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timtass April 02nd, 2024 19:31 GMT Print this post
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I thought Stan Hansen since he was different than either of the top 2.  Two "scientific" then a brawler style.  


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George Schire April 06th, 2024 08:15 GMT Print this post
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I chuckle when some of you above have answered the question asked on this thread, mention Kiniski and Von Erich.  Not saying they weren't good wrestlers, but their respective AWA title reigns were the sheer definition of a "coffee break".  

Kiniski held the AWA from July 11, 1961 to August 8, 1961.  That's only 28 days!  And Von Erich's reign was even shorter.  He held from July 27, 1963 to August 8, 1963.  

I'm sorry, but neither of these short runs with the AWA title qualifies them to be the greatest AWA champions after Gagne and Bockwinkel.  That honor has to without debate has to go to Mad Dog Vachon.  He held the title 5 different time between May 1964 and February 1967.  





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Right you are George. Correctamundo in the words of Arthur Fonzarelli.. I believe that Dick Beyer when he was Dr. X had the AWA strap but it may have only been in one of the AWA towns until Verne took it back on the next house show rematch.
I believe that Doc X would have been a good and credible AWA Champion had Verne allowed him to carry the strap for maybe 6 months to a year.


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Steve Blitz April 07th, 2024 00:33 GMT Print this post
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 Sir Arthur Fonzarelli, being from Milwaukee, would definitely make a pitch for The Crusher as being the fourth best AWA champion.
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Sonnyr555 April 07th, 2024 13:37 GMT Print this post
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Excellent choice of The Crusher.
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George Schire April 07th, 2024 23:11 GMT Print this post
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Quoted from: Sonnyr555, April 06th, 2024 12:35  GMT
Right you are George. Correctamundo in the words of Arthur Fonzarelli.. I believe that Dick Beyer when he was Dr. X had the AWA strap but it may have only been in one of the AWA towns until Verne took it back on the next house show rematch.
I believe that Doc X would have been a good and credible AWA Champion had Verne allowed him to carry the strap for maybe 6 months to a year.



Dr. X (Dick Beyer) held the AWA title from August 17, 1968 (winning it from Gagne in Bloomington, MN) to August 31, 1968 (losing back to Gagne in Minneapolis, MN).  

Doc's title win was basically to build for a rematch with Gagne.  As much as Doc was my favorite wrestler, a two week title reign doesn't even a little close to making him the 3rd greatest AWA champion behind Gagne and Bockwinkel.  

As I said above, that honor has to go to Mad Dog Vachon.  


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Dan Shocket's Ghost April 08th, 2024 17:17 GMT Print this post
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Quoted from: timtass, April 02nd, 2024 19:31  GMT
I thought Stan Hansen since he was different than either of the top 2.  Two "scientific" then a brawler style.  

 

Yeah, Stan's title run had a very different feel to it. It was almost treated like a reign of terror from an invader who was holding the title hostage.
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