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BattleRoyal April 15th, 2024 13:49 GMT Print this post
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What did you guys think of Butch and Luke showing up in the WWF after being heels for a decade in Pacific Northwest, Mid-Atlantic, Florida, CWA, Southwest, Stampede, etc. It is interesting that they debuted at MSG prior to their first TV taping. Most WWF talent debuted on TV prior to MSG in the 80s IIRC.

Rochester, NY War Memorial December 26, 1988 (matinee)
Bushwhackers vs. Nikolai Volkoff/Boris Zhukov

Syracuse, NY Onondoga War Memorial December 26, 1988 (3,000)
Bushwhackers vs. Nikolai Volkoff/Boris Zhukov

Buffalo, NY Memorial Auditorium December 27, 1988
Bushwhackers vs. Nikolai Volkoff/Boris Zhukov

Binghamton, NY Broome County Arena December 28, 1988 (2,200)
Bushwhackers defeated Nikolai Volkoff/Boris Zhukov

Utica, NY Memorial Auditorium December 29, 1988 (1,800)
Bushwhackers defeated Nikolai Volkoff/Boris Zhukov

New York, NY Madison Square Garden December 30, 1988 (16,000)
Televised on MSG Network
Bushwhackers defeated Nikolai Volkoff/Boris Zhukov at 9:23 following battering ram and double gutbuster on Zhukov after Zhukov accidentally clotheslined his partner to floor

Hartford, CT Civic Center December 31, 1988 (6,700) (matinee)
Bushwhackers defeated Nikolai Volkoff/Boris Zhukov

Auburn Hills, MI Palace January 1, 1989
Bushwhackers defeated Nikolai Volkoff/Boris Zhukov

Evansville, IN Roberts Municipal Stadium January 2, 1989
Bushwhackers vs. Nikolai Volkoff/Boris Zhukov

Huntsville, AL Von Braun Civic Center January 3, 1989
WWF Superstars taping
Aired 1/21/89
Bushwhackers defeated Tom Stone/Jerry Price at 3:07 when Luke pinned Price following double gutbuster
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louie.d April 15th, 2024 17:42 GMT Print this post
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Like everything else about this timeframe, Jr took an edgy heel tag team and turned them into another of his cartoons.  Nevertheless, I have a funny story about the Sheepherders/Bushwackers.

I lived from 92-95 in Reisterstown on the west side of Baltimore County.  Axle Rotten was running independent shows in Catonsville, just a very short distance away.  The shows got plenty of bigger names between spots with the WWE and I suppose other territories still struggling along.  I usually got good first row seats.  The Bushwackers were on one show.  My daughter was only about 5. I took her and was holding her in my arms as the Bushwackers strutted to the ring.  One of them leaned over and licked my daughters face.  She looked at me and said "Daddy, this stuff is nuts!" Priceless memory for me.

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I didn't know who the Sheepherders were and I thought they sucked and I still do. I couldn't care less about how much money they were being paid or how much easier the style was--not then and not now. Just an utterly embarrassing gimmick.
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Bobby Heenan is another example of talent who debuted at MSG before a TV taping debut  

Most 1984-1989 talent were showcased on TV prior to MSG debut  

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          I always felt that the Bushwackers emergence on the WWF scene ended the booking of the midgets.  The Bushwackers were now the official comedy act of the federation.  
          I was happy for them that they went from having to bleed every night and work a crazy style and instead work the most simple style of having "Three Stooges" comedy style matches.
          Being that they were both older workers, I was happy for them for having found such a plumb job right before they reached their Golden Years.
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Good call. After WM 3, they had some Hillbilly Jim vs. King Kong Bundy with a midget in each wrestlers corner; however, after summer 1987 I don't recall any midget matches.
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The Sheepherders - Bushwhackers had great matches with The Fantastics, R & R Express, and so on.  Like them or not they were over like a Million $$$$  especially as faces with the makeover to The Bushwhackers.  
Jonnie Stewart and Yours Truly had a decent match with The Sheepherders in Hammond, IN. on a WCW event . Our own John Watanabe was the Ring Announcer for that show.  
Jack Victory I think walked out with the New Zealand Flag.  
Loony Toon gimmick as Faces in the WWF but it created some opportunities on some TV Sitcoms and their merchandising numbers were very good.

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Quoted from: Sonnyr555, April 15th, 2024 20:58  GMT
The Sheepherders - Bushwhackers had great matches with The Fantastics, R & R Express, and so on.  Like them or not they were over like a Million $$$$  especially as faces with the makeover to The Bushwhackers.  
Jonnie Stewart and Yours Truly had a decent match with The Sheepherders in Hammond, IN. on a WCW event . Our own John Watanabe was the Ring Announcer for that show.  
Jack Victory I think walked out with the New Zealand Flag.  
Loony Toon gimmick as Faces in the WWF but it created some opportunities on some TV Sitcoms and their merchandising numbers were very good.


Sonny did you ever get a chance to work with The Bushwackers at any of the syndicated TV tapings the WWF did? Like on Superstars or challenge?
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Only time ever was in Hammond for WCW- NWA.  Would have loved to have worked them in WWF.
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Like everyone else, I loved the Sheepherders, but hated the comedic Bushwackers.  

 Even worse then their awful cartoonish gimmick was the fact that when Tully & Arn came to the WWF as the Brainbusters they feuded heavily with the Bushwackers. All I could ever think about was how much better the matches would have been if it was the Sheepherders against the Horsemen.
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Quoted from: Stephen Gennarelli, April 15th, 2024 20:31  GMT
          I always felt that the Bushwackers emergence on the WWF scene ended the booking of the midgets.  The Bushwackers were now the official comedy act of the federation.  
     


This is a good point, and the midgets did seem to virtually disappear at this point.
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The BWhackers working as the heel style Sheepherders may not have appealed to the then WWF Universe during that time.
I worked a couple Indy shows that had the Whackers v Public Enemy and both were decent matches as it did seem that Luke & Butch were working a more aggressive style.
Sometimes you have to do what the Boss tells you in terms to The Whackers v Brainbusters matches.
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VKM was fond  of out with the old and in with the new. Giving wrestlers new names and gimmicks he created.  
Sheepherders we're great old school, Bushwhackers cartoon appealed to his new  children fan base and adults? who bought t-shirts, dolls ect . which made money
Fans enjoyed having their heads licked. Don't know what that says but it must say something  

Turning George Steele babyface now that was a crime against wrestling. Lol
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Quoted from: Spoiler, April 16th, 2024 13:35  GMT
VKM was fond  of out with the old and in with the new. Giving wrestlers new names and gimmicks he created.  
Sheepherders we're great old school, Bushwhackers cartoon appealed to his new  children fan base and adults? who bought t-shirts, dolls ect . which made money
Fans enjoyed having their heads licked. Don't know what that says but it must say something  

Turning George Steele babyface now that was a crime against wrestling. Lol


I would be so disgusted if the bushwhackers would have licked my head or my kids heads...not that I had kids during their WWF run lol
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They were embarrassing. In an era with so many excellent Tag Teams they really were sticking out like a sore thumb. I loved hearing Jesse Ventura call them out!

As a kid for me they were just as bad as the Red Rooster.

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