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First of all, Atlas was not IN the shower, he was in the dressing room. So were Dutch Mantell and Bobby Jaggers. If you go to WC, the main page, and then the Ringside Live/Live Radio link, you'll find the Jaggers audio interview, and if you do a search on the WC board for 'how did Bruiser Brody die' you'll find a very complete discussion. As far as the trial, PR had the law that a hung jury (not unanimous) was an acquittal, where on the mainland US it's a mistrial and the guy can be tried again. The trial stunk to high heaven. As far as the American wrestlers testifying, for one thing they got death threats, and for another thing they mysteriously didn't get their subpoenas till AFTER the trial.
So long from the Sunshine State!
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anyone and everyone he could.
No one in PR gave a damn.
Why dont you ask instead of Carlos Intestine, Jose the rest of the whole fucking PR " justice " system can live with THEMSELVES?
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It had nothing to do with the people of Puerto Rico. If anything the people of PR rebeled against the promotion. It took over 10 years for the promotion to recover. They were huge fans of Brody. It all came down to politics. I am rather sure that the office, at least a few of the parties knew there may be some kind of recourse towards Brody. And there was obviously a cover up involved with the office!
We can speculate on how's and why's but I have many friends in PR, and some that now reside here. Stabbings are not uncommon, as bad as it sounds. Brody was murdered, and there is some talk that it may have something to do with something in Japan too. Or at least that there was some major heat with Brody in Japan also that may have lead to some trouble.
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I had always heard, that there was legit heat between Gonzalez and Brody. Something to the affect that Gonzalez wanted Brody to sell for him in a match, because his father was in the building. Brody flatly refused, and squashed him pretty hard. Gonzalez had a big grudge, and had harbored it till they both worked Puerto Rico.
 ?? I have always wondered if any of this was true...
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Quoted from: hhdad, June 01st, 2004 01:26 GMTWas Brody a bully? Maybe so.
Was Brody liked by everyone he worked with? Certainly not.
But the fact remains, Brody was unarmed; he was invited into a shower stall by a man carrying a concealed weapon (knife under the towel on his arm). No matter how you slice it (no pun intended) that is premeditated murder. You can get by with something like that in other countries (Puerto Rico in this case) or if you have enough money (OJ Simpson for example). In this case, Jose Gonzalez probably had both of these in his favor. I doubt that we will ever know more than we already do about this case. As for Brody getting what he asked for or deserved, I would say that may be true if Brody had been the one to invite Jose into the shower and attacked him only to be killed in self-defense. But from all indications this was not the case. If Brody was a bully and hard to work with then why would you as the promoter of a territory (which Jose was here) bring him in in the first place? And if something transpired while he was working there, just send him on his way and never ask him back again. You don't have to murder him to get him out. I'm sure it was not like Brody said he was there to stay; he never stayed in any one place very long.
Gonzales was acquitted of the murder of Brody. Let it go. he never killed anyone.
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Quoted from: SSteward, June 09th, 2004 14:40 GMTQuoted from: BigCMan, ---I dont' really know what to think here.
Was he murdered? I guess.
Was I there? Nope
Was anyone there as a witness I can credibly trust? Not really.
Was the murderer brought to justice? Don't know, it's not America, although a US territory. They have different laws, different society, different everything.
Is there more to WWC than Brody getting stabbed? Oh Yeah.
I always liked reading in all the magazines about Abdullah vs. Brody, and Abdullah vs Colon and Herculas Ayala vs Colon and Spivey and the Invaders and TNT and so on.
There is so much history involved in WWC that is overlooked because of this. And I sincerely doubt Brody would want everyone to remember how he died instead of all the action that happened here. Yes, Brody was murdered, stabbed by Jose Gonzalez. It's a fact.
Were you there? No. Don't say it's a fact. Gonzales was acquitted. Leave him alone.
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Quoted from: LittleHercules, June 05th, 2005 03:06 GMTQuoted from: Inhaler, June 04th, 2005 23:04 GMT Gonzales was acquitted of the murder of Brody. Let it go. he never killed anyone. in Puerto Rico the law states that a hung jury results in an acquittal, not a mistrial (like in the U.S.)..
Puerto Rico is part of the US. Get your facts straight.
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Quoted from: Inhaler, June 05th, 2005 04:07 GMTPuerto Rico is part of the US. Get your facts straight.
Okay class, let's go back to geography 101 . . .
Puerto Rico, while considered a U.S. territory, is NOT part of the United States. In fact, last I checked (which was about five minutes ago), it still has not been admitted into the Union as the 51st state. Puerto Rico has its own culture, way of life, society, constitution, government, laws and judicial system. It is completely autonomous.
I have my facts straight. But again, clearly you don't know what you are talking about.
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I agree, Inhaler, you were just looking to stir the pot. He was aqcuitted because their legal system is different than our's. That is a fact. The whole thing is tragic. I have heard alot of bad things about Brody from people that worked with him. The man may have very well been one of the most selfish wrestlers ever, but he did not deserve to die. I can't help but feel there is far more to this story than any of us know, or will ever know. I have heard of so many things, wild stuff like drug deals gone bad, Brody manhandling members of Gonzales' family, I mean just wild stuff. All I know is Jose crafted this with the intent to kill Brody, or why else conceal the knife? I used to hate Jose with a passion, but I don't anymore. It isn't a matter of siding with him or condoning what he did. It is a matter of he will get his. Not trying to start a theolgical debate, but I believe in a higher power and it is not for me to judge. Heck, call it karma, what goes around comes around if you want. At some point Jose will answer for what he did. It is well known that the PR legal system is not the smoothest run, or the fairest when it comes to an American versus a native son. I will stop short of saying it is corrupt, but man there sure seems to be so many unanswered questions. Why did American witnesses recieve their subpeonas after the trial ended? I doubt it was an accident that they sat on some officials desk for too long. As far as Colon and Jovica, they are already reaping what they sewed. The WWC went from one of the top foreign destinations for Americans to barely making it. The IWA's rise to prominence does correalte with the demise of WWC. I am saddened, Brody was a hell of a big man and I lament all the potential classic matches we as fans could have had if he were not murdered. I think Brody was well within his rights to look out for himself, but not at the expense of other wrestlers like he often times did.
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It's hard to just "let it go" when the man that was murdered was a personal friend.
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Quoted from: Road Warrior Yajuta, June 07th, 2005 03:25 GMTI agree, Inhaler, you were just looking to stir the pot. He was aqcuitted because their legal system is different than our's. That is a fact. The whole thing is tragic. I have heard alot of bad things about Brody from people that worked with him. The man may have very well been one of the most selfish wrestlers ever, but he did not deserve to die.
I never said he deserved to die. Certainly, Brody, or no one, deserves that. But, to sit here and say Gonzales killed him is not accurate. He was acquitted. You're leaving yourself open to lawsuits by Gonzales. You can't go around saying a man kllled another when he was acquitted. Let it go.
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Pay no attention to Inhaler, this character seems to be a trouble maker on the board, locate some of their other posts and see what I mean.
Quite frankly I'm not surprised he hasn't been warned or banned by now.
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Ehh, because he was aquitted of murder doesn't necessarily mean that he was innocent of the crime.
On that note, let's all try and remain on topic and not get into personal squabbles. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and every poster has the right to express how they feel about this topic. As far as "letting it go," that's a decision that would be made by Vince or one of the admins/mods.
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