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For the life of me I never saw the appeal of Jimmy Boogie Woogie Man Valiant in the Crockett are. Memphis yes, but Mid Atlantic no.. I still to this day do not know what a Boogie Woogie Man is . I see the area had great workers like Steamboat, Flair,Youngblood,The Briscoes, Sgt. Slaughter,Pvt. Kernodle, Valentine, and Wahoo. Jimmy Valiant sticks out like a sour thumb. Mid Atlantic fans were entertained, but not with scientifiic matches. Valiant usually feuded with monsters and freak shows like Kabuki and One Man Gang. When did he debut and when did he actually get over with the fans? Was he ever have a program where he was taken seriously as a title threat?
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He became a babyface in the latter months of 1981, first in Memphis and then with the BWM gimmick in MA. At first he had the feud with Ivan Koloff and Humperdink's guys and had a place in things, and was often involved in the TV title picture with Kabuki and Starrcade '83. At the end of that year he started his long running program with Jones et al and was still over well into 1985 despite the chalkboard stuff. But the war was starting to lose steam in 1986, and really could have ended at the '86 Bash tour. By 1987 his push was just about done, and I'm surprised he was still around in 1988.
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He was over big time in 1983 vs Kabuki and 1984 and 1985 vs Paul Jones and his army. I would say spring and summer 1984 was his peak. Very popular from late 1981 until mid 1988
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During his JCP days, I usually used his matches to make a sandwich or grab something to drink. Never believed he had any chance against Kabuki.
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I never saw the appeal to Jimmy Valiant. To me his "Boogie Woogie Man" persona was silly and annoying and his ring work was terrible.
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Someone described several workers as "unpainted clowns" that kind of applies to the Boogie Woogie Man in my opinion.
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I heard this question asked before and it was never really answered except to say that it extended his career well past when it should have ended.
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He had a different look, a different entrance (Boy from NY City was a popular song in the day), he danced, he did kinda funny interviews. I know he was not a good worker, but as is said many times, you don't need to be a good worker in wrestling, just bring people to the shows.
He also had good opponents that made him look good (especially Ivan Koloff).
He used to pretty much sell out Toronto in the early 80s when he started coming in - again he was different than the rest. Also his jackets, long pants, tall boots, all of that package made him appealing. Just my 2 cents.
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This message was edited by ChipArm on April 24th, 2014 04:11 GMT
Saw his match with the Great Kabuki on the Flare for the Gold show on the WWE network. Actually I saw Charlie Brown from Outta Town, and god it was terrible. Maybe the worst top card gimmick I can remember. And Bill Caudille trying to put him over was not pleasant either.
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He was in his 40's and had been wrestling for 20 years in the 80's. He peaked
as a box office draw in early 1984 with the Boogie Jam 84 shows that drew well.
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This message was edited by WILDFIREMARK76 on April 28th, 2014 14:47 GMT
I first became acquainted with Crockett promotions in 1987 through the Apter mags. I remember buying a set of NWA trading cards with Jimmy Valiant in them and I couldn't believe that guy was a wrestler. Since then, of course, I have seen his work. I have never enjoyed watching or listening to him. It's kinda like watching a train wreck in my opinion, you watch out of morbid curiosity. I can see where he might have been a hit with old ladies maybe.
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I'd be interested to hear Rich Landrum's thoughts on Valiant's appeal...
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This message was edited by The Voice on May 05th, 2014 19:56 GMT
Man, you guys are pretty hard on ol' Boogie. Yes, his gimmick was a bit unusual, but he drew fans and he was especially liked by the younger fans. The idea behind his gimmick was spawned during the right era (Late 70's - early 80's). When disco's were popular and rock n roll music was making a change.
Valiant loved the fans and spent a lot of time talking to them and signing autographs. Was he the greatest wrestler in the world? No, but he made up for it in personality.
On a personal side, I found Jimmy to be very personable and easy to get a long with.
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I spoke to a 1970s and 1980s Jim Crockett Promotions mega fan who told me that Jimmy was huge in the Carolinas/Virginia in 1982, 1983, 1984 and 1985, specifically 1984.
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I just went through some of the 1984 World Wide shows and I've soured some on Valiant. True, he was being pushed more than enough in 1985-86 with the dog collar/throat injury/chalkboard, everyone turning on him, and the obsession with hair, but at least that period also had the Horsemen and Magnum TA. 1984 has the street lovin' Valiant being met by a limo in his Boogie Man Jam video, somewhat contradicting his "image" by living the high life in his Life's Been Good video, having his music played not only during his interviews but when he comes out during other people's - which he did a lot - and it requiring help from JJ Dillon to get rid of him at Starrcade. The only thing he did that I really got into was the Adrian Street/Miss Linda feud, which sadly ended too quick.
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