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guest: November 11th, 2003 16:15 GMT Print this post








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For the videos I've seen, Tommy was a consistent and very heavy bleeder, and often before some very small crowds, which amazes me.

Did Tommy actually enjoy this aspect of his work?  


guest: November 12th, 2003 00:14 GMT Print this post








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I don't know if he enjoyed this part of his ring persona, but I've heard that sometimes wrestlers would get paid a little more for blading.  In the NWA at this time, a lot of guys were bleeding regularly.  By the mid 80's, it was apparent that the AIDS risk led to a reduction of bleeding for health and safety reasons.


guest: November 18th, 2003 10:02 GMT Print this post








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I can not say that he liked to blade but I do not think it bothered him.  A couple years ago I worked him in a short run in Ohio.  The first night he did a hell of a blade job.  Bled like a stuck pig.  The rest of the shots he wanted me to hit him and open up the old cuts the hard way.  I always hated that hard way stuff.

Anyways, Rich desided to work the boys the first night in.  He was in the dressing room after the match still bleeding like a pig.  He started telling the guys I had cut him into his eye.  One of the guys ran in to tell me Rich was hurt.  As I came into the room with Rich he gave me a little wink and started telling me off.  I played along and started yelling back at him.  All the boys bought into it.  It was great.

I work with the International Wrestling Alliance out of Columbus Ohio.  We always enjoyed Tommy when he came in.  Even as a older statesmen he always worked hard in the ring.  To bad he was so undependable.  You never even knew if he would show up or not.  Thats why the IWA quit booking him.  I am sure there are a lot of stories like that.  So sad.


guest: November 18th, 2003 19:40 GMT Print this post








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interesting topic.

tommy came from the memphis territory; the formula there was for the good-looking babyfaces to get color and left for dead, before making a big comeback. (admittedly, this was a staple of several promotions, but jerry jarrett relied on it more than anyone, in my opinion.)

here's my thoughts on it--and it's a bit perverse: i think a lot of the boys kind of got off on blading. after all, back then, plenty of fans believed the biz was legit, and they would scream bloody murder (ahem) when the pretty boys would be opened up. makes me think of something i read of ric flair once: the first time he bladed, he went to dressing room and looked in the mirror and "loved it." i really do believe that the boys loved the reaction from the fans when they juiced.

for me, though, my first time blading was a little more dramatic. afterward, i felt SO bad because my girlfriend and sis were in the audience...but nonetheless sorta proud that i "hit a gusher" as lawler told me. (yet another shameless plug: www.moviepoopshoot.com/wr estling/3.html)

my (beautiful, patient) girlfriend of the time--bless her heart--just assumed that brian lawler had accidentally punched me, opening me up. she knew about blading, but assumed that i would never do such a thing. it really is kind of insane when you think about it. but for years, i think the resulting scars from blading gave the biz a strong shot of realism. even as late as the '90s, i would have people say to me: "it's all fake....um...right?" (the most memorable was my english teacher in college saying that.) people wanted to believe back then...and the scars helped. you'd see these guys with scars and question: hey, is it real? or is at least some of it real?

last thing on the topic: i was managing tommy rich and doug gilbert in memphis, and they had just worked a classic memphis brawl with lawler and brian. they were both bleeding, but tommy (of course) had hit a gusher. we're preparing to cut a post-match promo, and the cameraman asks: "are you guys ready?" tommy says "yeah! let's do it." doug stares at the floor, shuffilng his feet and says: "yeah. i guess. whatever." sensing a problem, tommy asks doug, "what's wrong with you?" quietly, doug says..."well...you're...you're bleeding more than me." to calm doug, tommy wipes blood off his forehead and smears over doug's face. i was stunned---um, hello, AIDS anyone?

just realized i've probably blabbed too much; gotten off topic. the norm for me of late.


Knight of Darkness November 19th, 2003 06:52 GMT Print this post
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I think the fact that Rich bladed so much was probaby an indication that he was a Ric Flair mark.  Flair was the standard bearer in the business, and he was a long haired bleach blonde who used the blade a lot as part of his gimmick.  I think Tommy probably bladed often thinking that people would be saying, "hey, he's like Flair! he's just like Flair!"  Rich could probably look at himself in the mirror after a match, with his bleach blonde long hair soaked with blood, and say "I'm like the nature boy whooooo!"


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