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BattleRoyal April 30th, 2024 16:09 GMT Print this post
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Funny how the TV title would be defended and change hands at house shows in the 80s
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Quoted from: Bret Linden, April 30th, 2024 16:01  GMT

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When Larry Z left the promotion to go work for AWA in winter 1989 he vacated the title after holding it for a year. Surprised Dusty did not put the title on himself in 1988.


It was beneath him. Or, at least in his mind, anyway.  

I could have gotten behind the title if it was actually ever defended in a Western state. Or if someone could explain to me exactly what a "heritage" title is. That makes as much sense to me as a "television" champion, and that never made sense to me, either.


That was typical JCP-WCW nonsense!
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Dan Shocket's Ghost May 01st, 2024 17:34 GMT Print this post
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Black Bart pinning Sting is a huge upset.
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BattleRoyal May 01st, 2024 18:51 GMT Print this post
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Agree
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Per Wiki "The belt was created as a tribute to the NWA Western States Heavyweight Championship, a retired territorial championship based in Amarillo, Texas; despite this, the NWA Western States Heritage Championship was never actually defended in Amarillo and most title defenses occurred on the East Coast or in the Midwest."

I am pretty sure that Dusty created the tile to give Barry Windham some steam without him holding the TV or US titles.  He dropped the Western States title in January '88, won the tag title with Luger in March and the US title in May. Perhaps Dusty saw more mileage in the UWF as a place to build up or refresh talent yet still keep them under the JCP umbrella.


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Way too many titles...
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BattleRoyal May 02nd, 2024 18:01 GMT Print this post
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1987 JCP had the following titles

Western States Heritage Champion
NWA World Champion
TV Champion
US Tag Team Champions
US Champion
NWA World Tag Team Champions
Six Man Tag Team Champions

Am I forgetting any?
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World Junior heavyweight champion.
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BattleRoyal May 02nd, 2024 22:04 GMT Print this post
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Ladies title?
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Quoted from: Sed76, April 23rd, 2024 21:14  GMT
Didn't the belt have the NWA letters on it? I never really understood why it was being pushed as a thing in the UWF who ran what Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi and Oklahoma.


Think you are correct, Unsure about the original but there are photos with Larry with the belt during his run and they have the NWA letters on top. These may have gotten added during the run but the letters are there.  

For those interested you can google the belt name with Larry


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JasonKM May 03rd, 2024 00:11 GMT Print this post
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Quoted from: Bret Linden, April 30th, 2024 16:01  GMT

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When Larry Z left the promotion to go work for AWA in winter 1989 he vacated the title after holding it for a year. Surprised Dusty did not put the title on himself in 1988.


It was beneath him. Or, at least in his mind, anyway.  

I could have gotten behind the title if it was actually ever defended in a Western state. Or if someone could explain to me exactly what a "heritage" title is. That makes as much sense to me as a "television" champion, and that never made sense to me, either.


Back in ECW, Joey Styles explained that the ECW World Television Title was supposed to represent the best wrestler on television, as a throwback to the days when it was the one title that would be defended every week on television, since the territory's main title would usually be defended at house shows and supercards.  


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Quoted from: BattleRoyal, May 02nd, 2024 22:04  GMT
Ladies title?



The NWA did briefly recognize a US Women's title held by Misty Blue Simms, which I believe was actually Killer Kowalski's IWF Women's title belt.
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Quoted from: Dan Shocket's Ghost, May 03rd, 2024 00:47  GMT

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Ladies title?



The NWA did briefly recognize a US Women's title held by Misty Blue Simms, which I believe was actually Killer Kowalski's IWF Women's title belt.


Now that you mention it she did show up on TBS but unsure how long that lasted maybe 1-2 months around the house show circuit. Either way too many titles in there.


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NWA Brass Knuckles Championship


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This message was edited by Dan Shocket's Ghost on May 04th, 2024 21:50 GMT

 The brass knuckles title was from MACW days I don't think it ever made an appearance during the time Dusty was booking, which is odd cuz that title was right up Dusty's alley.
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