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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inXF6i3TvvU
This was one of the better wrestling docus i've seen. What are your guys' opinion on some of the revelations revealed in this?
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Unfortunately no new revelations came out of the documentary.
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I question the part about Gonzales holding a grudge over his working with Brody in the WWWF in 76. Those two worked together on a bunch of shows at the time, a few that I even attended. I think that part is a little revisionist history.
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Was it really necessary to broadcast the funeral home/in the coffin picture. While the murder case was mishandled by the locals,last time I checked Puerto Rico was still part of the USA and civil rights violations of Brody's life should have been investigated in a timely fashion.
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No new information if you've read up about this before. Then again, I'm probably not the intended audience, which is a shame since those that don't know better will just take everything at face value. Instead, it's the usual mix of truth, speculation and puffed up fabrication.
Doesn't change the tragedy of what happened though. Just an awful incident.
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Quoted from: SciclunaSloan, April 28th, 2019 17:44 GMTWas it really necessary to broadcast the funeral home/in the coffin picture. While the murder case was mishandled by the locals,last time I checked Puerto Rico was still part of the USA and civil rights violations of Brody's life should have been investigated in a timely fashion.
Those pictures were from a Japanese wrestling magazine, and I'm going to go out on a limb and say that if Barbara Goodish had issues with it, she would have either brought them up at the funeral or asked someone else to do it. Japanese culture is often radically different than in the United States, or at least was back then.
How are the pictures a civil rights violation, anyway?
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Just watched it today. I felt bad for Brody's son Geoff and his widow Barbara. To me, Geoff really looks like Brody- especially when Brody was younger and clean shaved.
One thing I never knew was that there was the idea that Brody wanted to do away with Jose as booker. I knew there was long-standing heat, but I never realized how deep it ran. I also never knew the boys (those who were willing to talk that is- other than Atlas and Mantel) were saying anything to the cops other than Jose did it.
As for Carlos Colon and his "shoot" interview comments that were shown, I think he is a liar and a scumbag.
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Not so much the pictures,although I feel they were an invasion of privacy,but the murder itself.Regardless of the court outcome,,his rights were civilly violated and at least the Feds should have reviewed the case.
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I just watched it for the first time yesterday.
Nothing was new really, but seeing it all at one kinda hit me in an emotional way.
It is abundantly clear that his case was rigged to give Gonzalez a pass from the very start. However, that's not my biggest problem. My biggest problem was how badly the medical system dropped the ball here. Tony Atlas said that it took the ambulance something like 45 minutes to get there, and then they had to wait for a doctor until Atlas physically threatened one to look at Brody. I'm not a doctor, but I'm thinking that if the ambulance got there in five minutes and then an emergency doctor was waiting for Brody once he arrived, he may have survived the incident.
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I envy those who lived in a territory. I grew up in Tucson, AZ. My "territory" was being a WWF "C" town.
I believe the business fell on its ass in the early 90's because WCW started to copy WWF when it really should have been the other way around.
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The original story going around was the night that Brody was murdered the reason the ambulance took so long was due to fans entering the stadium. To add to that a sold out Menudo (band Ricky Martin played in) also had a show that night at the arena close by.
I've been told this numerous times, but have not been able to confirm it. The Juan Loubriel Stadium is pretty close to Ruben Rodriguez Coliseum, but they are not right next to each other.
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Actually, Coliseo Ruben Rodriguez and Estadio Juan Ramon Loubriel are in the same complex and right next to each other. They share the same parking areas in the complex and anyone going to an event at either of the locations would have to use the same access roads and entrances to the complex regardless of which event they were going to. With both events going on at the same time, you can guarantee that traffic would have been ridiculously backed up and an absolute pain to navigate. When you add that there was no 911 in place yet in Puerto Rico at the time, and it adds another complication to getting an ambulance there in a reasonable amount of time. It wasn't until 93 or 94 that a law was passed establishing the 911 emergency line (with the added charge to the phone bill of course).
I'm tired of people just going on about this being a premeditated plot or conspiracy. Brody was attended to by the onsite physician and unfortunately, between the logistics of getting an ambulance to the site, the type of wounds he received, the likelihood of having aspirin in his system due to the pain of previous injuries he was dealing with, it all combines to add anothet layer of tragic circumstance to the whole situation. If this had happened to someone at the Menudo concert, they would have had the same issue getting an ambulance there. People should stop implying that Brody was purposely left on the ground to bleed out.
If you walk through some of the details peddled by those that talk about what happened and actually place them in context (meaning place and time) and actually bother to think of what being at those places actually means, you realize there are things that don't add up in what's being presented There's a lot of ass covering for things not done then that they handwave away now after the fact. As an exanple, there are things that I'm sure are true about Atlas' account. But there are other details that have been shown are incorrect. And at this point, it gets harder to separate fact and fiction since Atlas has changed and will likely continue to change some of the surrounding details of his account, which in turn contradict or muddle things further. In the case of Tony Atlas, the accounts he gives today aren't really about Brody anymore, they're about Tony Atlas.
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Has it ever been explained why jury trials in Puerto Rico don't have to be unanimous? It's still the United States, so it's quite odd that's the case, at least in 1988.
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If Jose Gonzalez weren't acquitted, I would dismiss conspiracies surrounding this case much easier. But, "hey, come in to the shower" from a guy with a knife wrapped in a towel sounds like premeditated murder to me, and a looooooooooong way from self-defense. So, something is very wrong in this case somewhere.
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I envy those who lived in a territory. I grew up in Tucson, AZ. My "territory" was being a WWF "C" town.
I believe the business fell on its ass in the early 90's because WCW started to copy WWF when it really should have been the other way around.
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