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The Avenger February 20th, 2024 23:09 GMT Print this post
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Quoted from: BattleRoyal, February 20th, 2024 21:45  GMT
Wonder why Powers/Roma jobbed to Dream Team, Hart Foundation and Demolition before getting some wins over the Shadows. Figured it would be the other way around.

I met Jim at a Gold's Gym in Paramus, NJ in the 1990s working out. He is a great guy. Social, personable, friendly. Thought he was going to get a babyface push in WCCW in summer 1985 but he was back in WWF. Guess he missed northern NJ.


Not sure on the booking seeming reversed.  I can't recall the details.

But yeah, this is the impression I got of him from the shoot interviews.  I know he and Paul didn't get along.  Apparently, it was like oil and water.
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BattleRoyal February 20th, 2024 23:46 GMT Print this post
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Pay was good in WCCW in summer 1985  

Jim probably got homesick
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Quoted from: BattleRoyal, February 20th, 2024 23:46  GMT
Pay was good in WCCW in summer 1985  

Jim probably got homesick

Pay was good for everyone?

From the interview it seems he's blaming Jim Powers for his failure in WWF?
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BattleRoyal February 21st, 2024 01:31 GMT Print this post
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Paul Roma and Jim Powers were not pushed initially in WWF. They were paired together as a low to mid card tag team. Jim was probably not going to be pushed in WCCW with the Von Erichs being the featured wrestlers. The people who were paid well in summer 1985 in WCCW were Kerry Von Erich, Kevin Von Erich, Mike Von Erich, Gino Hernandez, Chris Adams, Gary Hart, and One Man Gang. Jim Cornette felt he and the Midnight Express were not paid well and left Southwest Sports for Jim Crockett Promotions
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Quoted from: BattleRoyal, February 21st, 2024 01:31  GMT
Paul Roma and Jim Powers were not pushed initially in WWF. They were paired together as a low to mid card tag team. Jim was probably not going to be pushed in WCCW with the Von Erichs being the featured wrestlers. The people who were paid well in summer 1985 in WCCW were Kerry Von Erich, Kevin Von Erich, Mike Von Erich, Gino Hernandez, Chris Adams, Gary Hart, and One Man Gang. Jim Cornette felt he and the Midnight Express were not paid well and left Southwest Sports for Jim Crockett Promotions


True.  The main reason why Cornette and the ME stayed in Texas as long as they did was because of a deal Watts had made with the VEs.  The money was poor in World Class.  Even on the big shows, Cornette and the ME were stiffed.

Back to Roma and that interview, it seemed to me that he was referring to some incident that was on par if not worse than the Janel Grant incident.  Roma HAS talked before about Jim Powers being propositioned for oral s*x--he did so on an RF shoot twenty years ago or so.

To me at least Roma knows more than he has said.  And if it has to do with Powers, it is not because of any love lost.  He has blamed Powers's  alcoholism and related unreliability in part for the team's failure to move up the card.

Roma knows something, and so does Mario Mancini, apparently.
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I think Roma and Powers were combined and pushed because The Rockers got fired.    

Also,  Zenk quit so maybe they saw a need for a tag team for the ladies.
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I was surprised when I found out Lombardi was happily married to a woman for years.all the jokes and innuendos about him going the other way....i just assumed he was gay. I feel Lombardi is who Roma must have been talking about....sounds like whatever was happening with him and other higher ups must have been ongoing for years.  

It wad a clip from a shoot interview...and he referenced his wife of many years a couple times. My heart just sank....that poor guy. The ******* he had to endure for years....
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Lombardi never left the company (at least for any real length of time) until only a few years ago, so it's not him.
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Think Gorilla would use the phrase "graduate of the Terry Garvin School of Defense" for guys who turned down sexual advances and would use the phrase in "student of the Terry Garvin School of Defense" for guys who accepted sexual advances to advance their careers
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We await the lists of wrestlers of both groups!
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Quoted from: BattleRoyal, February 21st, 2024 20:40  GMT
Think Gorilla would use the phrase "graduate of the Terry Garvin School of Defense" for guys who turned down sexual advances and would use the phrase in "student of the Terry Garvin School of Defense" for guys who accepted sexual advances to advance their careers


All of the Gorilla talk could have been worse.  At least he had the decency to mention that some graduated "with honors" instead of using the Latin "cum laude."  
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Do not have a list of students or graduates

Graduate fended off advances
Student gave in
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By all accounts gorilla was a real gentleman and a great guy and very generous. It is just so strange and bizarre that he would look upon this type of thing so lightly that he would make light-hearted comments about it, and little inside jokes, and even have code phrases for warding off or succumbing to unwanted advances... that would be broadcast on their syndicated television shows, very disturbing and strange
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Quoted from: Eater of the Dead, February 22nd, 2024 01:45  GMT
By all accounts gorilla was a real gentleman and a great guy and very generous. It is just so strange and bizarre that he would look upon this type of thing so lightly that he would make light-hearted comments about it, and little inside jokes, and even have code phrases for warding off or succumbing to unwanted advances... that would be broadcast on their syndicated television shows, very disturbing and strange


I feel the same way, as in its "disturbing" a Gorilla would make light (although in an inside joke type of way). Not only that, but Gorilla was a guy with much respect who could have been a real locker room or office leader and probably put a stop to the crap.
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Quoted from: BattleRoyal, February 21st, 2024 20:40  GMT
Think Gorilla would use the phrase "graduate of the Terry Garvin School of Defense" for guys who turned down sexual advances and would use the phrase in "student of the Terry Garvin School of Defense" for guys who accepted sexual advances to advance their careers



Sorry, I'm not believing this for a second.
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