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STEPHEN YOHE March 07th, 2024 12:36 GMT Print this post
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Who was listed as the promoter in Pittsburgh during 1970 & 1971? Was it ever Phil Zacko? Who did Toots Mondt sell out to?. Did Bruno have a percentage of Pittsburg.. Thanks. --- Steve Yohe
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BattleRoyal March 07th, 2024 13:57 GMT Print this post
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I believe Bruno owned a certain percentage of the Pittsburgh territory in the late 60s and early to mid 70s
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I believe Ace Freeman was the promoter in the Pittsburgh area, while Phil Zacko promoted in eastern Pennsylvania.
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Stephen Gennarelli March 11th, 2024 21:36 GMT Print this post
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        From what I read online, it looks like Bruno sold the promotion to Newt in '71.

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BattleRoyal March 11th, 2024 23:23 GMT Print this post
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Ace Freeman was the promoter in Pittsburgh in the early 1960s
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Bepo and Geeto Mongol left the WWWF territory in Feb 71 taking the WWWF international tag team tiles with them. Kinda odd.
Maybe Bruno who lost the championship to Koloff a month before, sold the territory to Geeto at that time
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In June 1969 Bruno was at the helm. In June 1969 the WFIA held their annual convention there. The banquet was held  and all invited westlers failed to attend except for Killer Kowalski. Later it was learned Bruno forbade the wrestlers to attend to preserve Kayfabe. Needless to say bad feelings arose which led to dissolution of Pittsburgh area fan clubs. Besides the earned respect Kowalski garnered and trophy, it was the first time I saw Bruno in a negative light.OF course my initial bad feelings subsided and I've come to understand what Bruno was trying to do. Kowalski will always be remembered as a man of his word.
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Quoted from: SciclunaSloan, March 12th, 2024 10:05  GMT
In June 1969 Bruno was at the helm. In June 1969 the WFIA held their annual convention there. The banquet was held  and all invited westlers failed to attend except for Killer Kowalski. Later it was learned Bruno forbade the wrestlers to attend to preserve Kayfabe. Needless to say bad feelings arose which led to dissolution of Pittsburgh area fan clubs. Besides the earned respect Kowalski garnered and trophy, it was the first time I saw Bruno in a negative light.OF course my initial bad feelings subsided and I've come to understand what Bruno was trying to do. Kowalski will always be remembered as a man of his word.


Thank you for those details...i brought up the whole convention debacle on another thread re Bruno ..but could not remember the details.
How stupid of Bruno to "forbid" wrestlers to go and how shameful no one except kowalski kept their word. The fans attending would have been fans who knew whats up
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I can't fault Bruno for his action. The whole business was built on kafabe.
Fans seeing faces and heels mingling together just wasn't done. Today fans know it's entertainment, but back in 69 fans wanted to believe  wrestling was sport.
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If the WFIA convention had heels appearing on Saturday and faces appearing on Sunday that could have worked ..and kept kafabe
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Quoted from: Spoiler, March 12th, 2024 13:24  GMT
I can't fault Bruno for his action. The whole business was built on kafabe.
Fans seeing faces and heels mingling together just wasn't done. Today fans know it's entertainment, but back in 69 fans wanted to believe  wrestling was sport.


I think you are giving Bruno a pass because of who he was and what he meant to the business. Other sports had rivals who could coexist in the same room. They could still maintain kayfabe...nothing says heels and faces had to laugh and cavort and joke with one another or expose any secrets. Im sure putting this together took a lot of work and Bruno was in the wrong here. I respects Bruno and think he was a good man. But we all make mistakes and errors in judgment. This was 1 of brunos
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I can appreciate your reasoning but I will agree to disagree.
Promotors kept heels and faces in separate dressing rooms to give the appearance of what they were promoting was real. Nothing good would come from having wrestlers mixing or seated on the dias. It was a different era.
Other sports have rivalries but those sports results aren't based on rivalries ( or gimmicks ) and is team vs team.
Wrestling was one on one  
VJM did not promote "entertainment" but VKM does or did  
During the Morales years the tension in MSG was unreal. Fans believed.
If fans didn't believe the arenas would have been empty.


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Quoted from: Spoiler, March 12th, 2024 15:21  GMT
I can appreciate your reasoning but I will agree to disagree.
Promotors kept heels and faces in separate dressing rooms to give the appearance of what they were promoting was real. Nothing good would come from having wrestlers mixing or seated on the dias. It was a different era.
Other sports have rivalries but those sports results aren't based on rivalries ( or gimmicks ) and is team vs team.
Wrestling was one on one  
VJM did not promote "entertainment" but VKM does or did  
During the Morales years the tension in MSG was unreal. Fans believed.
If fans didn't believe the arenas would have been empty.



We can certainly agree to disagree....especially since I do see your larger point as a general rule.
Its just that in this case 1)someone went through a lot of work to put this together and 2)the people attending knew whats up anyway. They knew what wrestling was.  In hindsight I don't believe brunos edict had any bearing 1 way or the other on kayfabe.dont think anything good was accomplished....just someones hard work put to waste.
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Quoted from: BattleRoyal, March 07th, 2024 13:57  GMT
I believe Bruno owned a certain percentage of the Pittsburgh territory in the late 60s and early to mid 70s


I'm familiar with the Spectator Sports promotion out of Pittsburgh.  They had a lot of Italian-Americans on the roster, no doubt.
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